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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Roy Lee, welcome to Sorcery"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I just want Roy Lee, welcome to Sorcery"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I just want"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to congratulate you on this big funding to congratulate you on this big funding to congratulate you on this big funding"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "announcement"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Right now, revenue announcement"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Right now, revenue announcement"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Right now, revenue"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "If you timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "If you timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "don't believe that you yourself can get don't believe that you yourself can get don't believe that you yourself can get"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "to 100 mil AR in the next year, you to 100 mil AR in the next year, you to 100 mil AR in the next year, you"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "don't have to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Ever worried about don't have to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Ever worried about don't have to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Ever worried about"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "like, oh, the next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Think about like, oh, the next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Think about like, oh, the next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Think about"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "your current company"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You need more your current company"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You need more your current company"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You need more"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "money right now"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like, bro, these rounds money right now"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like, bro, these rounds money right now"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like, bro, these rounds"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "are closing in like hours"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Virality are closing in like hours"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Virality are closing in like hours"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "really important, but it means nothing really important, but it means nothing really important, but it means nothing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "if you can't do it consistently"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "There if you can't do it consistently"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "There if you can't do it consistently"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "is no work life balance"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Your entire is no work life balance"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Your entire is no work life balance"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Your entire"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "life is clueing and your entire work is life is clueing and your entire work is life is clueing and your entire work is"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Roller coaster of an answer, clueing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Roller coaster of an answer, clueing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Roller coaster of an answer,"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "but we love that founder mode"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "be me but we love that founder mode"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "be me but we love that founder mode"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "versus Elon vers Sam and we're all going versus Elon vers Sam and we're all going versus Elon vers Sam and we're all going"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "to be competing for the title of to be competing for the title of to be competing for the title of"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "conqueror of the universe"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "yep, conqueror of the universe"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "yep, conqueror of the universe"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "we're here for some big news"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "you we're here for some big news"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you we're here for some big news"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "just raised a big next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "just raised a big next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "just raised a big next round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, we did"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Who did you raise Yeah"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, we did"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Who did you raise Yeah"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, we did"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Who did you raise"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "from and how much was it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh we did pick from and how much was it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh we did pick from and how much was it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh we did pick"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "through the mill led by Angry through the mill led by Angry through the mill led by Angry"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the big round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How did you get to work the big round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How did you get to work the big round"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How did you get to work"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "with them over the process"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "moved to with them over the process"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "moved to with them over the process"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "California and like within a week or two California and like within a week or two California and like within a week or two"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the guys just pulled up the office when the guys just pulled up the office when the guys just pulled up the office when"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I f um did and they do not have the I f um did and they do not have the I f um did and they do not have the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "money for takes the money and uh just money for takes the money and uh just money for takes the money and uh just"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "happened I think being is like sort of happened I think being is like sort of happened I think being is like sort of"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the way that you the only way you will the way that you the only way you will the way that you the only way you will"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "get into right now is by"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "we're going to get into right now is by"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "we're going to get into right now is by"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "we're going to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "have a lot to talk about in this whole have a lot to talk about in this whole have a lot to talk about in this whole"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to start with this but I'm I can't wait to start with this but I'm I can't wait to start with this but I'm I can't wait"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to understand the line in which your to understand the line in which your to understand the line in which your"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "investors ers feel comfortable investing investors ers feel comfortable investing investors ers feel comfortable investing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "in company like yours that's constantly in company like yours that's constantly in company like yours that's constantly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "going after stunts"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, I I think the going after stunts"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I I think the going after stunts"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I I think the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "actual bet is on our ability to actual bet is on our ability to actual bet is on our ability to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "contribute which I think everyone has no contribute which I think everyone has no contribute which I think everyone has no"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um truly I think everyone doubt in"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um truly I think everyone doubt in"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um truly I think everyone"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "recognizes that I have the ability to recognizes that I have the ability to recognizes that I have the ability to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "get a lot of eyeballs onto"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh the get a lot of eyeballs onto"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh the get a lot of eyeballs onto"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "only thing that people are worried about only thing that people are worried about only thing that people are worried about"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "is uh can he build enough sauce to like is uh can he build enough sauce to like is uh can he build enough sauce to like"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "actually build a sustainable company actually build a sustainable company actually build a sustainable company"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "But if the core bet is that underneath"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "But if the core bet is that underneath"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "But if the core bet is that"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "distribution is the most important thing distribution is the most important thing distribution is the most important thing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "then obviously like we are the best then obviously like we are the best then obviously like we are the best"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "distributing tech startup in the world distributing tech startup in the world distributing tech startup in the world"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "right now um at least in in the early right now um at least in in the early right now um at least in in the early"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "stage and I think it's uh this is the stage and I think it's uh this is the stage and I think it's uh this is the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "actual bet that's being made actual bet that's being made actual bet that's being made"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "distribution is one but the end of more distribution is one but the end of more distribution is one but the end of more"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "important than anything technology could important than anything technology could important than anything technology could"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "work fat you don't have distribution you work fat you don't have distribution you work fat you don't have distribution you"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "don't have a sustainable business"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "have don't have a sustainable business"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "have don't have a sustainable business"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you gotten any push back from the you gotten any push back from the you gotten any push back from the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "investors on some of your yet"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "a hair but investors on some of your yet"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "a hair but investors on some of your yet"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "um generally they only invested in me um generally they only invested in me um generally they only invested in me"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "because they knew that I would do because they knew that I would do because they knew that I would do"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Clayton don't want to defend it and Clayton don't want to defend it and Clayton don't want to defend it and"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "they believed in the ability for that to they believed in the ability for that to they believed in the ability for that to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think Sorcery was the first convert"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think Sorcery was the first convert"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I think Sorcery was the first"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "one to break your viral launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, I one to break your viral launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I one to break your viral launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "saw this trickling throughout media like saw this trickling throughout media like saw this trickling throughout media like"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's actually insane how days after"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's actually insane how days after"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's actually insane how"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "slow like legacy media is"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's insane"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "slow like legacy media is"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's insane"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "slow like legacy media is"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's insane"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, but right after the day after I Um, but right after the day after I Um, but right after the day after I"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "posted in Sorcery Clue's mega viral posted in Sorcery Clue's mega viral posted in Sorcery Clue's mega viral"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "launch and it had about 7 million views launch and it had about 7 million views launch and it had about 7 million views"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "at the time"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Since then, I think you've at the time"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Since then, I think you've at the time"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Since then, I think you've"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "double or maybe tripled that,"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "something double or maybe tripled that,"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "something double or maybe tripled that,"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's pretty like that"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's pretty like that"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's pretty"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I mean, I was uh I was not insane"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I mean, I was uh I was not insane"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I mean, I was uh I was not"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "expecting it to go that viral"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I had my expecting it to go that viral"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I had my expecting it to go that viral"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "hopes for like two to three million hopes for like two to three million hopes for like two to three million"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "impressions"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like to be honest, like impressions"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like to be honest, like impressions"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like to be honest, like"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "literally like the hour before we literally like the hour before we literally like the hour before we"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "launched, we were heavily debating, launched, we were heavily debating, launched, we were heavily debating,"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "dude, do do we even launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "We just push dude, do do we even launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "We just push dude, do do we even launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "We just push"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "back cuz we weren't happy with the back cuz we weren't happy with the back cuz we weren't happy with the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "But um I think like everything editing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "But um I think like everything editing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "But um I think like everything"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "is just a lesson of just like like is just a lesson of just like like is just a lesson of just like like"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "it, swing swing big"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What are your it, swing swing big"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "What are your it, swing swing big"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "What are your"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "general frameworks for fundraising"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How general frameworks for fundraising"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How general frameworks for fundraising"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "do you think about it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I think um do you think about it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I think um do you think about it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I think um"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "on the founder front right now, I think on the founder front right now, I think on the founder front right now, I think"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "if ever you're worried about like a down if ever you're worried about like a down if ever you're worried about like a down"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "round or not not being able to raise round or not not being able to raise round or not not being able to raise"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "more in the future or like you're ever more in the future or like you're ever more in the future or like you're ever"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "worried about, oh, I'm not going to worried about, oh, I'm not going to worried about, oh, I'm not going to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "raise as much this time so I can raise raise as much this time so I can raise raise as much this time so I can raise"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "more next round, like like I I I think more next round, like like I I I think more next round, like like I I I think"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you're making the wrong decision right you're making the wrong decision right you're making the wrong decision right"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "now revenue timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "now revenue timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "now revenue timelines are so compressed"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "If you don't believe that you yourself If you don't believe that you yourself If you don't believe that you yourself"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "can get to 100 mil AR in the next year, can get to 100 mil AR in the next year, can get to 100 mil AR in the next year,"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "then you should just just don't then you should just just don't then you should just just don't"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "build a company because you don't have build a company because you don't have build a company because you don't have"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the balls to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You need to swing the balls to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You need to swing the balls to do it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You need to swing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "big at every moment"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like you don't know big at every moment"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like you don't know big at every moment"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like you don't know"
  },
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    "text": "And for subscription and $100 annual"
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    "text": "that's amazing"
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    "text": "Yeah, particularly admire look up to"
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    "text": "I think this is like the the Elon Musk"
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    "text": "I think this is like the the"
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    "text": "one guy who uh he gets it so right"
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    "text": "He one guy who uh he gets it so right"
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    "text": "fought through and this guy's like a fought through and this guy's like a fought through and this guy's like a"
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    "text": "ever been like Elon or done what he's ever been like Elon or done what he's ever been like Elon or done what he's"
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    "text": "And um I think if there ever was a done"
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    "text": "And um I think if there ever was a done"
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    "text": "role model for my sort of controversial role model for my sort of controversial role model for my sort of controversial"
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    "text": "polarizingness uh hitting escape polarizingness uh hitting escape polarizingness uh hitting escape"
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    "text": "Exactly, bro"
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    "text": "Exactly, bro"
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    "text": "on um a really fun predictions segment"
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    "text": "on um a really fun predictions segment"
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    "text": "on um a really fun predictions segment"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Whatever harm it will do, it will"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like self-restore"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think all the like self-restore"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think all the like self-restore"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think all the"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "people worried about like AGI safety, people worried about like AGI safety, people worried about like AGI safety,"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "all that This is like, bro, all that This is like, bro, all that This is like, bro,"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like I'm an extreme optimist"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think AI like I'm an extreme optimist"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think AI like I'm an extreme optimist"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "will cause us all to lift you 500 years will cause us all to lift you 500 years will cause us all to lift you 500 years"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "plus, will cure cancer and Alzheimer's"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "plus, will cure cancer and Alzheimer's"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "plus, will cure cancer and Alzheimer's"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And literally in probably like 50 years, And literally in probably like 50 years, And literally in probably like 50 years,"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I'm going to be on Earth 3 in unifor I'm going to be on Earth 3 in unifor I'm going to be on Earth 3 in unifor"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "universe like B47 thanks to AI"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "and Elon universe like B47 thanks to AI"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "and Elon universe like B47 thanks to AI"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And Elon Musk"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Exactly, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And Elon Musk"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Exactly, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And Elon Musk"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Exactly, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "an extreme techno optimist"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh I I think an extreme techno optimist"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh I I think an extreme techno optimist"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh I I think"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "meteor strike is just it's the most meteor strike is just it's the most meteor strike is just it's the most"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "negative thing to think about"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "If I negative thing to think about"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "If I negative thing to think about"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "could bet on like if I I I will full could bet on like if I I I will full could bet on like if I I I will full"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Well, there's port no"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, there's port no"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, there's"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "a 65% chance"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Are you a 65% chance"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Are you a 65% chance"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think I think that's serious"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I think I think that's serious"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I think I think that's"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Maybe I'm reading it wrong"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Maybe I'm reading it wrong"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Maybe I'm reading it wrong"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, okay, Roy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, this was certainly Um, okay, Roy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, this was certainly Um, okay, Roy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, this was certainly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "an interesting conversation"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I don't an interesting conversation"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I don't an interesting conversation"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "think I've been called bro more than my think I've been called bro more than my think I've been called bro more than my"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh, but thank you so much for life"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh, but thank you so much for life"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh, but thank you so much for"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "coming on and sharing more about Cluey coming on and sharing more about Cluey coming on and sharing more about Cluey"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and your crazy uh your crazy stunts and and your crazy uh your crazy stunts and and your crazy uh your crazy stunts and"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "all the things you're doing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You're all the things you're doing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You're all the things you're doing"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "welcome, bro"
  }
]