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    "text": "in the past year I've made about 5 in the past year I've made about 5"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "million in Revenue it really was as million in Revenue it really was as million in Revenue it really was as"
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    "text": "simple as asking chat GPT how do I build simple as asking chat GPT how do I build simple as asking chat GPT how do I build"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "a mobile app there have been a lot of a mobile app there have been a lot of a mobile app there have been a lot of"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "people that are like you can't just people that are like you can't just people that are like you can't just"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "build an app with like 95% chat GPT and build an app with like 95% chat GPT and build an app with like 95% chat GPT and"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I'm like no you actually can those two I'm like no you actually can those two I'm like no you actually can those two"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "videos generated almost 200,000 videos generated almost 200,000 videos generated almost 200,000"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "downloads in less than a week and shot downloads in less than a week and shot downloads in less than a week and shot"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "us to $80,000 in monthly Revenue off the us to $80,000 in monthly Revenue off the us to $80,000 in monthly Revenue off the"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Jump when you build something with a Jump when you build something with a Jump when you build something with a"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "very clear use case solving a very clear very clear use case solving a very clear very clear use case solving a very clear"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "problem that people have it can be the problem that people have it can be the problem that people have it can be the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "simplest product of all time there's simplest product of all time there's simplest product of all time there's"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "massive massive massive"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "upside dude how much money do you make upside dude how much money do you make upside dude how much money do you make"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "um in the past year I've made about 5 um in the past year I've made about 5 um in the past year I've made about 5"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "million in Revenue over the course of million in Revenue over the course of million in Revenue over the course of"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "the next 12 months I will make at least the next 12 months I will make at least the next 12 months I will make at least"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "10 million in Revenue uh but the 10 million in Revenue uh but the 10 million in Revenue uh but the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "majority of the profits are being majority of the profits are being majority of the profits are being"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "reinvested into my next big Vision which reinvested into my next big Vision which reinvested into my next big Vision which"
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    "text": "is Apex you're quite young how old are is Apex you're quite young how old are is Apex you're quite young how old are"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "you I'm 23 years old okay and what do you I'm 23 years old okay and what do you I'm 23 years old okay and what do"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you do I build consumer mobile apps okay you do I build consumer mobile apps okay you do I build consumer mobile apps okay"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "so like apps on my phone yes exactly so like apps on my phone yes exactly so like apps on my phone yes exactly"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "okay and then you say consumer that okay and then you say consumer that okay and then you say consumer that"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "means like what does that mean this is means like what does that mean this is means like what does that mean this is"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "for the average person right we're not for the average person right we're not for the average person right we're not"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "building for businesses we're not doing building for businesses we're not doing building for businesses we're not doing"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "B2B sass right we're building apps for B2B sass right we're building apps for B2B sass right we're building apps for"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "the average individual so you want let's the average individual so you want let's the average individual so you want let's"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "go ahead and talk about your first app go ahead and talk about your first app go ahead and talk about your first app"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "because you're a non-technical person because you're a non-technical person because you're a non-technical person"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and this was your first app and you saw and this was your first app and you saw and this was your first app and you saw"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "pretty quick success with it so talk to pretty quick success with it so talk to pretty quick success with it so talk to"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "me about RZ GPT yeah so I had done a me about RZ GPT yeah so I had done a me about RZ GPT yeah so I had done a"
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    "text": "little bit of coding mostly just like little bit of coding mostly just like little bit of coding mostly just like"
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    "text": "python writing basic four loops some python writing basic four loops some python writing basic four loops some"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "data analytics but I never built data analytics but I never built data analytics but I never built"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "software chat GPT came out uh software chat GPT came out uh software chat GPT came out uh"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "popularized in December of 20122 and as popularized in December of 20122 and as popularized in December of 20122 and as"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "soon as I started using it I was hooked soon as I started using it I was hooked soon as I started using it I was hooked"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I was like this is incredible I wasn't I was like this is incredible I wasn't I was like this is incredible I wasn't"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "immediately thinking about ways to immediately thinking about ways to immediately thinking about ways to"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "capitalize on it more so just like this capitalize on it more so just like this capitalize on it more so just like this"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "is an unbelievable technology fast is an unbelievable technology fast is an unbelievable technology fast"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "forward about 6 months and I'm getting forward about 6 months and I'm getting forward about 6 months and I'm getting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "ready to graduate college and I don't ready to graduate college and I don't ready to graduate college and I don't"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "really want to go the path of getting a really want to go the path of getting a really want to go the path of getting a"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "full-time job so I'm like what can I do full-time job so I'm like what can I do full-time job so I'm like what can I do"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to make money I have a roommate at the to make money I have a roommate at the to make money I have a roommate at the"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "time who was always using dating apps time who was always using dating apps time who was always using dating apps"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "right and he would sometimes ask me like right and he would sometimes ask me like right and he would sometimes ask me like"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "dude what should I say to this girl and dude what should I say to this girl and dude what should I say to this girl and"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I was like I wonder if Chad GPT could I was like I wonder if Chad GPT could I was like I wonder if Chad GPT could"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "just generate these responses and so I just generate these responses and so I just generate these responses and so I"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "took his transcript I manually wrote it took his transcript I manually wrote it took his transcript I manually wrote it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "out I threw it into chat GPT and I was out I threw it into chat GPT and I was out I threw it into chat GPT and I was"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "like give me suggestions and they were like give me suggestions and they were like give me suggestions and they were"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "decent but they were very robotic in decent but they were very robotic in decent but they were very robotic in"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "nature but I'd done a little bit of nature but I'd done a little bit of nature but I'd done a little bit of"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "prompt engineering right figuring out prompt engineering right figuring out prompt engineering right figuring out"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "how to hack the sort of responses that how to hack the sort of responses that how to hack the sort of responses that"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "chat GPT gives so I fiddle around with chat GPT gives so I fiddle around with chat GPT gives so I fiddle around with"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the prompt I'm giving it all these the prompt I'm giving it all these the prompt I'm giving it all these"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "instructions on ways to manufacture its instructions on ways to manufacture its instructions on ways to manufacture its"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "output so that that it actually sounds output so that that it actually sounds output so that that it actually sounds"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like a human and has Riz right and this like a human and has Riz right and this like a human and has Riz right and this"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "is what led to the Advent of Riz GPT so is what led to the Advent of Riz GPT so is what led to the Advent of Riz GPT so"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "this was the first mobile app that I this was the first mobile app that I this was the first mobile app that I"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "built and what did it do it enabled you built and what did it do it enabled you built and what did it do it enabled you"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "to upload a screenshot of your messages to upload a screenshot of your messages to upload a screenshot of your messages"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "with a girl and then it would take the with a girl and then it would take the with a girl and then it would take the"
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    "text": "text using OCR or optical character text using OCR or optical character text using OCR or optical character"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "recognition send that through chat GPT recognition send that through chat GPT recognition send that through chat GPT"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "with one of our prompts and then it with one of our prompts and then it with one of our prompts and then it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "would produce responses and would send would produce responses and would send would produce responses and would send"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "those back to you so they could see those back to you so they could see those back to you so they could see"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "basically the OCR could see the text basically the OCR could see the text basically the OCR could see the text"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "message from the girl on Tinder yeah and message from the girl on Tinder yeah and message from the girl on Tinder yeah and"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "then it would generate responses for you then it would generate responses for you then it would generate responses for you"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to send exactly so the optical character to send exactly so the optical character to send exactly so the optical character"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "recognition scans through your recognition scans through your recognition scans through your"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "screenshot if it's on the left side the screenshot if it's on the left side the screenshot if it's on the left side the"
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    "text": "message then that's probably from the message then that's probably from the message then that's probably from the"
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    "text": "girl if it's on the right it's probably girl if it's on the right it's probably girl if it's on the right it's probably"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "from from from"
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    "text": "so pulls out this transcript and then it so pulls out this transcript and then it so pulls out this transcript and then it"
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    "text": "gives examp of what you could say in the gives examp of what you could say in the gives examp of what you could say in the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "of that conversation okay so it gives of that conversation okay so it gives of that conversation okay so it gives"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you options basically yeah so you could you options basically yeah so you could you options basically yeah so you could"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "press generate response and you get one press generate response and you get one press generate response and you get one"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and then you go I don't really like that and then you go I don't really like that and then you go I don't really like that"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "generate another go you know these These generate another go you know these These generate another go you know these These"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "are you know maybe not flirty enough you are you know maybe not flirty enough you are you know maybe not flirty enough you"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "can pull up the spice meter make it can pull up the spice meter make it can pull up the spice meter make it"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "spicier and it'll give you a more spicier and it'll give you a more spicier and it'll give you a more"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "flirtatious me was it was it in the app flirtatious me was it was it in the app flirtatious me was it was it in the app"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "like was it in tinder's app or were you like was it in tinder's app or were you like was it in tinder's app or were you"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "just copying you would screenshot the just copying you would screenshot the just copying you would screenshot the"
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    "text": "message screenshot upload toz GPT and we message screenshot upload toz GPT and we message screenshot upload toz GPT and we"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "produced the response and then they just produced the response and then they just produced the response and then they just"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "copy paste it exactly oh that's so copy paste it exactly oh that's so copy paste it exactly oh that's so"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "simple very simple incredibly simple how simple very simple incredibly simple how simple very simple incredibly simple how"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "much money did this app make so we first much money did this app make so we first much money did this app make so we first"
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    "text": "launched just over a year ago the first launched just over a year ago the first launched just over a year ago the first"
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    "text": "couple of weeks we didn't really have couple of weeks we didn't really have couple of weeks we didn't really have"
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    "text": "the formula down we did like a couple the formula down we did like a couple the formula down we did like a couple"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "hundred downloads and then I found this hundred downloads and then I found this hundred downloads and then I found this"
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    "text": "Niche uh on social Niche uh on social Niche uh on social"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "media it was Riz content essentially media it was Riz content essentially media it was Riz content essentially"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "guys showing off how good their Riz is guys showing off how good their Riz is guys showing off how good their Riz is"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "we paid $50 for two separate promos they we paid $50 for two separate promos they we paid $50 for two separate promos they"
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    "text": "just made their normal content and put just made their normal content and put just made their normal content and put"
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    "text": "our app in the our app in the our app in the"
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    "text": "middle and those two videos did a few middle and those two videos did a few middle and those two videos did a few"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "million views each generated almost million views each generated almost million views each generated almost"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "200,000 downloads in less than a week 200,000 downloads in less than a week 200,000 downloads in less than a week"
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    "text": "and shot us to $80,000 in monthly and shot us to $80,000 in monthly and shot us to $80,000 in monthly"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Revenue off the jump from 50 bucks $100 Revenue off the jump from 50 bucks $100 Revenue off the jump from 50 bucks $100"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "two2 $50 promos but yeah holy [ __ ] um two2 $50 promos but yeah holy [ __ ] um two2 $50 promos but yeah holy [ __ ] um"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "and then over the course of the next few and then over the course of the next few and then over the course of the next few"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "months we scaled up to a little bit over months we scaled up to a little bit over months we scaled up to a little bit over"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "200,000 a monthly Revenue Mr Mr and 200,000 a monthly Revenue Mr Mr and 200,000 a monthly Revenue Mr Mr and"
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    "text": "we've been steadily there for like 10 we've been steadily there for like 10 we've been steadily there for like 10"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "months so I think that we're about to months so I think that we're about to months so I think that we're about to"
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    "text": "hit two and a half million in total hit two and a half million in total hit two and a half million in total"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "revenue what was their normal content revenue what was their normal content revenue what was their normal content"
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    "text": "you said that was their normal content you said that was their normal content you said that was their normal content"
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    "text": "they're literally just like showing off they're literally just like showing off they're literally just like showing off"
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    "text": "conversations between girls it's like conversations between girls it's like conversations between girls it's like"
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    "text": "Tinder messages with a bunch of Tinder messages with a bunch of Tinder messages with a bunch of"
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    "text": "different girls right uh they would go different girls right uh they would go different girls right uh they would go"
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    "text": "how good my RZ is and it would just be how good my RZ is and it would just be how good my RZ is and it would just be"
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    "text": "screenshots of their conversations with screenshots of their conversations with screenshots of their conversations with"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "the girls with maybe little edits in the the girls with maybe little edits in the the girls with maybe little edits in the"
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    "text": "middle like let bro cook it's like a middle like let bro cook it's like a middle like let bro cook it's like a"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "little meme um and so they would be like little meme um and so they would be like little meme um and so they would be like"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "10 image long slideshows and we would 10 image long slideshows and we would 10 image long slideshows and we would"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "reach out to them and we're like dude we reach out to them and we're like dude we reach out to them and we're like dude we"
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    "text": "love your content want to use our app to love your content want to use our app to love your content want to use our app to"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "show off your RZ and like put it in the show off your RZ and like put it in the show off your RZ and like put it in the"
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    "text": "middle like this is where I get my RZ middle like this is where I get my RZ middle like this is where I get my RZ"
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    "text": "people are watching this content because people are watching this content because people are watching this content because"
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    "text": "girls and then this guy's like hey I'm girls and then this guy's like hey I'm girls and then this guy's like hey I'm"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "using this app actually and everyone using this app actually and everyone using this app actually and everyone"
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    "text": "email uh Blake apex"
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    "text": "follow Blake on Twitter super follow Blake on Twitter super follow Blake on Twitter super"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "interesting dude thank you so much oh interesting dude thank you so much oh interesting dude thank you so much oh"
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