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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Okay, Amir, you're a vibe coder I look Okay, Amir, you're a vibe coder I look"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "up to and I wanted to have you on the up to and I wanted to have you on the up to and I wanted to have you on the"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And what are we going to learn pod"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And what are we going to learn pod"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And what are we going to learn"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "First of all, I'm very flattered"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Thanks First of all, I'm very flattered"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Thanks First of all, I'm very flattered"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, today I'm going to do an a lot"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, today I'm going to do an a lot"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, today I'm going to do an"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "extension of the conversation you extension of the conversation you extension of the conversation you"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "recently had actually with James aka the recently had actually with James aka the recently had actually with James aka the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "boring marketer"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Y boring marketer"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Y boring marketer"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I think he did an excellent job showing I think he did an excellent job showing I think he did an excellent job showing"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "how he's using cursor to do a lot of how he's using cursor to do a lot of how he's using cursor to do a lot of"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "vibe marketing and how he's using it to vibe marketing and how he's using it to vibe marketing and how he's using it to"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "grow his business"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I want to take a step grow his business"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I want to take a step grow his business"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I want to take a step"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "further and show you how you can further and show you how you can further and show you how you can"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "essentially use cursor"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Pretty much it's essentially use cursor"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Pretty much it's essentially use cursor"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Pretty much it's"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the interface for work"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You can use it the interface for work"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You can use it the interface for work"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You can use it"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "for finance, analytics, design, and for finance, analytics, design, and for finance, analytics, design, and"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I'm going to show you marketing"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I'm going to show you marketing"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I'm going to show you"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "some workflows and tips on how you can some workflows and tips on how you can some workflows and tips on how you can"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "essentially have a team of agents to do essentially have a team of agents to do essentially have a team of agents to do"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "specific things with uh for you, especi specific things with uh for you, especi specific things with uh for you, especi"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "especially with MCPS"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "especially with MCPS"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "especially with MCPS"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I'm intrigued"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You You've intrigued me"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I'm intrigued"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You You've intrigued me"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I'm intrigued"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You You've intrigued me"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You Yeah, I have your attention"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You Yeah, I have your attention"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You Yeah, I have your attention"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You have my attention"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You have my attention"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You have my attention"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "That's great"
  },
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "[Music] [Music]"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What's really interesting is I think I What's really interesting is I think I What's really interesting is I think I"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "want to take a step back is with a lot want to take a step back is with a lot want to take a step back is with a lot"
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    "text": "of LMS we previously didn't have access of LMS we previously didn't have access of LMS we previously didn't have access"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to uh a lot of third party services or to uh a lot of third party services or to uh a lot of third party services or"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You know with chat GBT we briefly apps"
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    "text": "saw connections to like Zapier and saw connections to like Zapier and saw connections to like Zapier and"
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    "text": "custom integrations"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, but what we custom integrations"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, but what we custom integrations"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, but what we"
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    "text": "didn't see was how you can seamlessly didn't see was how you can seamlessly didn't see was how you can seamlessly"
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    "text": "just grab data and interact with that just grab data and interact with that just grab data and interact with that"
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    "text": "And essentially when Enthropic data"
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    "text": "And essentially when Enthropic data"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And essentially when Enthropic"
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    "text": "came out with MCP's model context came out with MCP's model context came out with MCP's model context"
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    "text": "protocols, it was an interface for you protocols, it was an interface for you protocols, it was an interface for you"
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    "text": "to be able to interact with those apps"
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    "text": "to be able to interact with those apps"
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    "text": "to be able to interact with those apps"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And it's pretty much synonymous with And it's pretty much synonymous with And it's pretty much synonymous with"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And the MCPs made it easy for us APIs"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And the MCPs made it easy for us APIs"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And the MCPs made it easy for us"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to be able to um access this data, to be able to um access this data, to be able to um access this data,"
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    "text": "create data, change it, transform it all create data, change it, transform it all create data, change it, transform it all"
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    "text": "through LLM"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And I currently have a through LLM"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And I currently have a through LLM"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I currently have a"
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    "text": "company called Humbolytics"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's an company called Humbolytics"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's an company called Humbolytics"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "analytics tool that lets you run split analytics tool that lets you run split analytics tool that lets you run split"
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    "text": "testing and CRO"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And you know, I come testing and CRO"
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    "text": "And you know, I come testing and CRO"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And you know, I come"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "from a background"
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    "text": "I've previously from a background"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I've previously from a background"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I've previously"
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    "text": "started companies and group teams and started companies and group teams and started companies and group teams and"
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    "text": "scale teams"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And my co-founder and I scale teams"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And my co-founder and I scale teams"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And my co-founder and I"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "this time around said what"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You know, this time around said what"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You know, this time around said what"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "how far can we scale this company with how far can we scale this company with how far can we scale this company with"
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    "text": "AI and Agentic Workflows"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And you know, AI and Agentic Workflows"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And you know, AI and Agentic Workflows"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And you know,"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "let's try to push to the ceiling"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And I let's try to push to the ceiling"
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    "text": "And I let's try to push to the ceiling"
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    "text": "think AI did a big part uh in like think AI did a big part uh in like think AI did a big part uh in like"
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    "text": "educating us, but also enabled us to do educating us, but also enabled us to do educating us, but also enabled us to do"
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    "text": "a lot of these workflows"
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    "text": "Um and then a lot of these workflows"
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    "text": "Um and then a lot of these workflows"
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    "text": "Um and then"
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    "text": "when MCPS came out, when MCPS came out, when MCPS came out,"
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    "text": "complete game changer"
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    "text": "So um you know with cursor game changer"
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    "text": "I was like okay I'm spending a lot of I was like okay I'm spending a lot of I was like okay I'm spending a lot of"
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    "text": "time b coding and building in cursor"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "What if I try to not leave cursor at What if I try to not leave cursor at What if I try to not leave cursor at"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "What if I do my finance my all"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What if I do my finance my all"
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    "text": "What if I do my finance my"
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    "text": "marketing my SEO and my development all marketing my SEO and my development all marketing my SEO and my development all"
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    "text": "in one place"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Is that possible"
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    "text": "Is that possible"
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    "text": "Is that possible"
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    "text": "So I think what Absolutely"
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    "text": "So I think what Absolutely"
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    "text": "So I think what"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "we can do actually is start off with we can do actually is start off with we can do actually is start off with"
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    "text": "So, one of the biggest finance"
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    "text": "So, one of the biggest finance"
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    "text": "So, one of the biggest"
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    "text": "to just get a list of invoices and be to just get a list of invoices and be to just get a list of invoices and be"
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    "text": "able to get an update on my profit and able to get an update on my profit and able to get an update on my profit and"
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    "text": "Directly from my accounting um app Directly from my accounting um app Directly from my accounting um app"
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    "text": "So what you can do is you can Yep"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So what you can do is you can Yep"
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    "text": "So what you can do is you can"
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    "text": "actually just connect to the zero MCP actually just connect to the zero MCP actually just connect to the zero MCP"
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    "text": "and say connect to zero and say connect to zero and say connect to zero"
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    "text": "MCP and list out my profit report for MCP and list out my profit report for MCP and list out my profit report for"
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    "text": "And what May 2025 or 2024 for example"
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    "text": "connect to the zero MCP and directly connect to the zero MCP and directly connect to the zero MCP and directly"
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    "text": "pull that information for you"
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    "text": "you can also update your accounting you can also update your accounting you can also update your accounting"
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    "text": "quote or an invoice it'll do that quote or an invoice it'll do that quote or an invoice it'll do that"
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    "text": "automatically for you"
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    "text": "So I can say automatically for you"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So I can say automatically for you"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "data by the way"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So anyone wants to you data by the way"
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    "text": "So anyone wants to you"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "okay I can create a quote for you"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "So I okay I can create a quote for you"
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    "speaker": "host",
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