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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Is this, you know, secret sauce"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Are we Is this, you know, secret sauce"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "sure we want to give it to people"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "sure we want to give it to people"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "sure we want to give it to people"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Because this is the same tool everyone Because this is the same tool everyone Because this is the same tool everyone"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "at Anthropic uses every day"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Hey, I'm Alex"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I lead cloud relations Hey, I'm Alex"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I lead cloud relations"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "here at Anthropic"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I'm Boris"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I'm a here at Anthropic"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And I'm Boris"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I'm a here at Anthropic"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I'm Boris"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "member of technical staff and creator of member of technical staff and creator of member of technical staff and creator of"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Today we're going to be Cloud Code"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Today we're going to be Cloud Code"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Today we're going to be"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "talking about Cloud Code"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Boris, to talking about Cloud Code"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Boris, to talking about Cloud Code"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "start, what is Cloud Code and how did it start, what is Cloud Code and how did it start, what is Cloud Code and how did it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, Cloud Code, it's a way come about"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, Cloud Code, it's a way come about"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, Cloud Code, it's a way"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to do a coding in the terminal"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh so to do a coding in the terminal"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh so to do a coding in the terminal"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you don't have to adopt new tools, you you don't have to adopt new tools, you you don't have to adopt new tools, you"
  },
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "don't have to use new IDs, you don't don't have to use new IDs, you don't don't have to use new IDs, you don't"
  },
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "have to use like a you know particular have to use like a you know particular have to use like a you know particular"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "website or anything"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um it's just agent website or anything"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um it's just agent website or anything"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um it's just agent"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "coding and it works wherever you work"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "coding and it works wherever you work"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "coding and it works wherever you work"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And I think that actually came out of And I think that actually came out of And I think that actually came out of"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the way anthropic engineers and the way anthropic engineers and the way anthropic engineers and"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "researchers use tools to um get the job researchers use tools to um get the job researchers use tools to um get the job"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "done cuz people have all sorts of done cuz people have all sorts of done cuz people have all sorts of"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "different stacks"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's like it's super different stacks"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's like it's super different stacks"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's like it's super"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like there isn't like one normal weird"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like there isn't like one normal weird"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like there isn't like one normal"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "stack everyone uses"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "There's people stack everyone uses"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "There's people stack everyone uses"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "There's people"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "that, you know, use the Z ID and there's that, you know, use the Z ID and there's that, you know, use the Z ID and there's"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "people that use VS Code and then there's people that use VS Code and then there's people that use VS Code and then there's"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "people that are like, you're never going people that are like, you're never going people that are like, you're never going"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "to take my Vim for me private for my to take my Vim for me private for my to take my Vim for me private for my"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "cold dead hands and we wanted to build cold dead hands and we wanted to build cold dead hands and we wanted to build"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "something that works for everyone"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, something that works for everyone"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, something that works for everyone"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and that's how we kind of ended up in and that's how we kind of ended up in and that's how we kind of ended up in"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the terminal"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, the terminal is the terminal"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, the terminal is the terminal"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, the terminal is"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "almost like the most universal of all almost like the most universal of all almost like the most universal of all"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the interfaces and that it's flexible the interfaces and that it's flexible the interfaces and that it's flexible"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and it's kind of incorporated into and it's kind of incorporated into and it's kind of incorporated into"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "everybody's workflow already"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "everybody's workflow already"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "everybody's workflow already"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And it also just happens to be Exactly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And it also just happens to be Exactly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And it also just happens to be"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the simplest and because it's so simple, the simplest and because it's so simple, the simplest and because it's so simple,"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "we get to iterate really fast"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, and we get to iterate really fast"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, and we get to iterate really fast"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "you know that that's kind of in you know that that's kind of in you know that that's kind of in"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "hindsight it turned out to be a good hindsight it turned out to be a good hindsight it turned out to be a good"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "thing, but definitely wasn't the intent thing, but definitely wasn't the intent thing, but definitely wasn't the intent"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "from the start"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Interesting"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, if I'm from the start"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Interesting"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, if I'm from the start"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Interesting"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "a new developer and I want to be using a new developer and I want to be using a new developer and I want to be using"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Cloud Code, what does that look like to Cloud Code, what does that look like to Cloud Code, what does that look like to"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "actually get this product working"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, actually get this product working"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, actually get this product working"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "it's pretty simple"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, you just it's pretty simple"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, you just it's pretty simple"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, you just"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "download it from npm"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh, it's npm download it from npm"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh, it's npm download it from npm"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh, it's npm"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "install-g install-g install-g"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "uh atanthropic-ai/cloud-code"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, it's a atanthropic-ai/cloud-code"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "little bit of an incantation"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "M um so little bit of an incantation"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "M um so little bit of an incantation"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you download it"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You just need NodeJS on you download it"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You just need NodeJS on you download it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You just need NodeJS on"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "your system and a lot of people have your system and a lot of people have your system and a lot of people have"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "that and that's it"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You open it up and that and that's it"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You open it up and that and that's it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You open it up and"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "it'll walk you through everything else"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "it'll walk you through everything else"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "it'll walk you through everything else"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So you just type Claude into the Wow"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So you just type Claude into the Wow"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So you just type Claude into the"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "terminal, hit enter and then that's it terminal, hit enter and then that's it terminal, hit enter and then that's it"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "and it just like Claude will guide you and it just like Claude will guide you and it just like Claude will guide you"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "through the rest of the process and then through the rest of the process and then through the rest of the process and then"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "you can just start talking to it and it you can just start talking to it and it you can just start talking to it and it"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "will start coding"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "will start coding"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You you install it and then you Yeah"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You you install it and then you Yeah"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You you install it and then you"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh one of the kind of the cool run quad"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh one of the kind of the cool run quad"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh one of the kind of the cool"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "things is Quad works in any terminal things is Quad works in any terminal things is Quad works in any terminal"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like you said"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So you know if you use like you said"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So you know if you use like you said"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So you know if you use"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "like iTerm 2 or Apple terminal or like iTerm 2 or Apple terminal or like iTerm 2 or Apple terminal or"
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    "text": "whatever terminal you use even like in a whatever terminal you use even like in a whatever terminal you use even like in a"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "SSH session or T-max session it'll work"
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    "text": "SSH session or T-max session it'll work"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "One of actually the top ways that people One of actually the top ways that people One of actually the top ways that people"
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    "text": "use quad code is within IDE terminals"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "use quad code is within IDE terminals"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "use quad code is within IDE terminals"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So one thing you can do is run quad So one thing you can do is run quad So one thing you can do is run quad"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "within for example VS code terminal and within for example VS code terminal and within for example VS code terminal and"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "it'll become more powerful"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So you know it'll become more powerful"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So you know it'll become more powerful"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So you know"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "instead of seeing file edits in the instead of seeing file edits in the instead of seeing file edits in the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "terminal you're going to see them nice terminal you're going to see them nice terminal you're going to see them nice"
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    "text": "Interesting"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And we kind itself"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Interesting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And we kind itself"
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    "text": "Interesting"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And we kind"
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    "text": "of use more signals from that ID also to of use more signals from that ID also to of use more signals from that ID also to"
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    "text": "make quad more intelligent"
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    "text": "But the make quad more intelligent"
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    "text": "But the make quad more intelligent"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "experience is the same"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "You you just run experience is the same"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "quad in the terminal"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So there's a quad in the terminal"
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    "text": "So there's a"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "lot there that I want to get to in a lot there that I want to get to in a lot there that I want to get to in a"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "But before we get to that, so we second"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "But before we get to that, so we second"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "But before we get to that, so we"
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    "text": "So it's been about a little over 3 So it's been about a little over 3 So it's been about a little over 3"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What's it been like"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What's the months"
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    "text": "What's it been like"
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    "text": "reaction been from the community"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, reaction been from the community"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, reaction been from the community"
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    "text": "just insane"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "just insane"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "You know, before we Like so unexpected"
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    "text": "to release it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "M um it was this tool to release it"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "M um it was this tool to release it"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "that internally is just it makes our that internally is just it makes our that internally is just it makes our"
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    "text": "engineers and researchers so productive engineers and researchers so productive engineers and researchers so productive"
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  {
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    "text": "and we were having this debate"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "We're and we were having this debate"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "We're and we were having this debate"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like is this you know secret sauce"
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    "text": "Are like is this you know secret sauce"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Are like is this you know secret sauce"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "we sure we want to give it to people cuz we sure we want to give it to people cuz we sure we want to give it to people cuz"
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    "text": "this is the same tool everyone at this is the same tool everyone at this is the same tool everyone at"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Anthropic uses every day and yeah I Anthropic uses every day and yeah I Anthropic uses every day and yeah I"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "think it turned out to be kind of the think it turned out to be kind of the think it turned out to be kind of the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "right decision cuz it makes people more right decision cuz it makes people more right decision cuz it makes people more"
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    "text": "Because Opus just writes my tests"
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    "text": "running it in GitHub actions and other running it in GitHub actions and other running it in GitHub actions and other"
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    "text": "and then the model will just go off and and then the model will just go off and and then the model will just go off and"
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    "text": "bring it back with a a result in a new bring it back with a a result in a new bring it back with a a result in a new"
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    "text": "run quad and then you run /install run quad and then you run /install run quad and then you run /install"
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    "text": "github action and that'll walk you github action and that'll walk you github action and that'll walk you"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "app in your GitHub repo and yeah the app in your GitHub repo and yeah the app in your GitHub repo and yeah the"
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    "text": "issue you can at mention quad just quad"
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    "text": "will put up a pull request and instead will put up a pull request and instead will put up a pull request and instead"
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    "text": "the combination of all these things from the combination of all these things from the combination of all these things from"
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    "text": "like the IDE integration to just cloud like the IDE integration to just cloud like the IDE integration to just cloud"
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    "text": "code as it is in the terminal to these code as it is in the terminal to these code as it is in the terminal to these"
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    "text": "these uh background actions in GitHub"
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    "text": "Yeah, I think there's two kinds of work Yeah, I think there's two kinds of work Yeah, I think there's two kinds of work"
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    "text": "Some things are really easy"
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    "text": "making a little bug fix or something and making a little bug fix or something and making a little bug fix or something and"
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    "text": "usually I'll ask Quad to do it in GitHub usually I'll ask Quad to do it in GitHub usually I'll ask Quad to do it in GitHub"
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    "text": "issues or the other thing I'll do is I issues or the other thing I'll do is I issues or the other thing I'll do is I"
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    "text": "back in a few minutes and I'll get a back in a few minutes and I'll get a back in a few minutes and I'll get a"
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    "text": "terminal notification when quad is done"
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    "text": "terminal notification when quad is done"
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    "text": "There's a second kind of work Oh wow"
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    "text": "There's a second kind of work Oh wow"
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    "text": "There's a second kind of work"
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    "text": "involved and I think this is still the involved and I think this is still the involved and I think this is still the"
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    "text": "It's engineering you can't oneshot"
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    "text": "And so what I'll do is I'll still hard"
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    "text": "and edit in my ID to to get that you and edit in my ID to to get that you and edit in my ID to to get that you"
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    "text": "know last mile of edits and I see"
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    "text": "So know last mile of edits and I see"
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    "text": "So know last mile of edits and I see"
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    "text": "there's this spectrum almost of like there's this spectrum almost of like there's this spectrum almost of like"
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    "text": "difficulty of task compared to where difficulty of task compared to where difficulty of task compared to where"
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    "text": "you're interacting with claude"
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    "text": "There's a there's a learning Yeah"
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    "text": "There's a there's a learning Yeah"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "one and three sound good"
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    "text": "Another thing to kind of take this to Another thing to kind of take this to Another thing to kind of take this to"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It doesn't work very context already"
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    "text": "Just ask it to read files first,"
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    "text": "then I'll ask it to code"
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    "text": "about the results, think about what it about the results, think about what it about the results, think about what it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "so on, the results are a lot better"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "Tell me about claude MD files"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Tell me about claude MD files"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "These seem really powerful"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, quadm These seem really powerful"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, quadm These seem really powerful"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, quadm"
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    "text": "we use it for everything"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "text": "It's instructions to quad that"
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    "text": "Um, so yeah,"
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    "text": "it's very powerful"
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    "text": "There's a lot of it's very powerful"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "There's a lot of"
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    "text": "um and so the simplest kind is a file um and so the simplest kind is a file um and so the simplest kind is a file"
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    "text": "called quad"
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    "text": "mmd and you put it in the"
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    "text": "you start quad in that folder"
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    "text": "I need to do memory file"
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    "text": "Claude better at these sort of easy Claude better at these sort of easy Claude better at these sort of easy"
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    "text": "So what if I could,"
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    "text": "you know, tag Claude in a chat app or you know, tag Claude in a chat app or you know, tag Claude in a chat app or"
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    "text": "something like this and have it fix an something like this and have it fix an something like this and have it fix an"
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    "text": "And what does this mean"
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    "text": "Well, I'd love to see uh cloud exciting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, I'd love to see uh cloud exciting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, thank you"
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