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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How much is Cle making right now"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, How much is Cle making right now"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "we're about to do 6 mil ARR"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "We're we're about to do 6 mil ARR"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "We're we're about to do 6 mil ARR"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "growing pretty [ __ ] quick"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How old growing pretty [ __ ] quick"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How old growing pretty [ __ ] quick"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "When is are you"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "When is are you"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Cle la la la la la la la la la la la la Cle la la la la la la la la la la la la Cle la la la la la la la la la la la la"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "la la la la la la la launch"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Cle la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "la la la la launch April 20th"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So like la la la la launch April 20th"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So like la la la la launch April 20th"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "less than 2 months ago and you had 500k less than 2 months ago and you had 500k less than 2 months ago and you had 500k"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's pretty crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's pretty crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's pretty crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "going super fast"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "That's actually crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "going super fast"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "That's actually crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "going super fast"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "That's actually crazy"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "What is Cluey at the high level"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Clue is What is Cluey at the high level"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Clue is What is Cluey at the high level"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "an AI assistant that sees what you see, an AI assistant that sees what you see, an AI assistant that sees what you see,"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "hears what you hear, and gives you live hears what you hear, and gives you live hears what you hear, and gives you live"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "assistance without you having to prompt assistance without you having to prompt assistance without you having to prompt"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's helpful for meetings, sales it"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's helpful for meetings, sales it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's helpful for meetings, sales"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "calls, interviews, and uh it's also calls, interviews, and uh it's also calls, interviews, and uh it's also"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "invisible to screen share"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, anytime invisible to screen share"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, anytime invisible to screen share"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, anytime"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "you want to use AI without anybody you want to use AI without anybody you want to use AI without anybody"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "knowing that you're using AI, use Cluey"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "knowing that you're using AI, use Cluey"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "knowing that you're using AI, use Cluey"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And so, it's like constantly monitoring And so, it's like constantly monitoring And so, it's like constantly monitoring"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "what's on your screen, listening to the what's on your screen, listening to the what's on your screen, listening to the"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "audio, and you can basically ask it any audio, and you can basically ask it any audio, and you can basically ask it any"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "question based off what's happening on question based off what's happening on question based off what's happening on"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "your screen"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, exactly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, instead your screen"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, exactly"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, instead your screen"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, exactly"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, instead"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "of having to screenshot stuff or screen of having to screenshot stuff or screen of having to screenshot stuff or screen"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "record or prompt, Chad GBT is just record or prompt, Chad GBT is just record or prompt, Chad GBT is just"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "observing what's going on, helping you observing what's going on, helping you observing what's going on, helping you"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I mean, the problem with live"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I mean, the problem with live"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I mean, the problem with"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Chad GBT right now is that you have this Chad GBT right now is that you have this Chad GBT right now is that you have this"
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    "text": "super intelligent model, but it can only super intelligent model, but it can only super intelligent model, but it can only"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "answer the questions that you like type answer the questions that you like type answer the questions that you like type"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, and this feels like a like in"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, and this feels like a like in"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, and this feels like a like"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "why would you do that when the model can why would you do that when the model can why would you do that when the model can"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "it can literally today it can take in it can literally today it can take in it can literally today it can take in"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the information on your screen"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It can the information on your screen"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It can the information on your screen"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "reason over that"
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    "text": "It can take in an reason over that"
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    "text": "It can take in an reason over that"
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    "text": "It can take in an"
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    "text": "And like like why limit it to only that"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And like like why limit it to only that"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And like like why limit it to only"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "the text question that you ask it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It the text question that you ask it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It the text question that you ask it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "just feels like a extremely limited just feels like a extremely limited just feels like a extremely limited"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "limited user experience when in reality limited user experience when in reality limited user experience when in reality"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "it can just have more"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And clearly we uh it can just have more"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And clearly we uh it can just have more"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And clearly we uh"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "just it's like the 10x version of just it's like the 10x version of just it's like the 10x version of"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I saw Sam Parr literally tragedy"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I saw Sam Parr literally tragedy"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I saw Sam Parr literally"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "like asking for something like this on like asking for something like this on like asking for something like this on"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Twitter the other day"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Twitter the other day"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Twitter the other day"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "I saw I saw that too"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's so I saw I saw that too"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "It's so I saw I saw that too"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "interesting"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And this seems like the interesting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And this seems like the interesting"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And this seems like the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "most intuitive way to use AI"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I most intuitive way to use AI"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, I most intuitive way to use AI"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "That's why it's like the first agree"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "That's why it's like the first agree"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "That's why it's like the first"
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    "text": "like good for you for spotting cuz I like good for you for spotting cuz I like good for you for spotting cuz I"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "feel like it's about to be absolutely feel like it's about to be absolutely feel like it's about to be absolutely"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How did you even get to this massive"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How did you even get to this massive"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "How did you even get to this"
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    "text": "this seems like a very quick come up this seems like a very quick come up this seems like a very quick come up"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "from what I've been summarizing on the from what I've been summarizing on the from what I've been summarizing on the"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And so I'm very curious uh how internet"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And so I'm very curious uh how internet"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And so I'm very curious uh how"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "the idea for the actual how did you even the idea for the actual how did you even the idea for the actual how did you even"
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    "text": "get this idea"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, I mean before Cluey get this idea"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, I mean before Cluey get this idea"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, I mean before Cluey"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "there was interview coder and man like there was interview coder and man like there was interview coder and man like"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "I'll just give you like the full story I'll just give you like the full story I'll just give you like the full story"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "of of of how everything happened"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "of of of how everything happened"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "of of of how everything happened"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Most things start senior year of though"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Most things start senior year of though"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Most things start senior year of"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "high school"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, I get admitted to high school"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, I get admitted to high school"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Um, I get admitted to"
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    "text": "Harvard early"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I'm like captain of Harvard early"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I'm like captain of Harvard early"
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    "text": "Um, I'm like captain of"
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    "text": "investment banker, go work in econ"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's investment banker, go work in econ"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "It's investment banker, go work in econ"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "like the most lame [ __ ] ever"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, but like the most lame [ __ ] ever"
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    "text": "Um, but like the most lame [ __ ] ever"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "later that year, like I get a suspension later that year, like I get a suspension later that year, like I get a suspension"
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    "text": "for sneaking out of a school field trip for sneaking out of a school field trip for sneaking out of a school field trip"
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    "text": "This gets reported to Harvard and time"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Harvard finds out"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "They suspend me or Harvard finds out"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "They suspend me or"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So now they they resend their offer"
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    "text": "it's like July, I can't go to college it's like July, I can't go to college it's like July, I can't go to college"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "and like my my acceptance to Harvard and like my my acceptance to Harvard and like my my acceptance to Harvard"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "just got revoked"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So after that, me and just got revoked"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So after that, me and"
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    "speaker": "host",
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So son just gets kicked out of Harvard"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "now we're like, \"Oh [ __ ] this is panic now we're like, \"Oh [ __ ] this is panic now we're like, \"Oh [ __ ] this is panic"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So So we we just decide, mode"
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    "text": "So So we we just decide,"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "cheating app and people are like oh what cheating app and people are like oh what cheating app and people are like oh what"
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    "text": "I'm just be like, \"Yo, I'm trying to go"
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    "text": "That'll be unheard of in this world"
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    "text": "than just forcing everything but there's than just forcing everything but there's than just forcing everything but there's"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So I'm curious then you said your life"
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    "text": "So I'm curious then you said"
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    "text": "it's million views in a week"
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    "text": "the method, bro"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "That's what I'm saying"
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    "text": "the method, bro"
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    "text": "That's what I'm saying"
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    "text": "the method, bro"
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    "text": "That's what I'm saying"
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    "text": "because the people with money"
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    "text": "like like they just don't understand like like they just don't understand like like they just don't understand"
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    "text": "How's your life changed since in 2025"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How's your life changed since in 2025"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "How's your life changed since"
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    "text": "you've since you started this"
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    "text": "Man, you've since you started this"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Man, you've since you started this"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "that's a that's a good question, bro"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "that's a that's a good question, bro"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "that's a that's a good question, bro"
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    "text": "There's been like I think February 1st There's been like I think February 1st There's been like I think February 1st"
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    "text": "of this year, literally like four just of this year, literally like four just of this year, literally like four just"
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    "text": "over 4 months ago is when I launched the over 4 months ago is when I launched the over 4 months ago is when I launched the"
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    "text": "paid version of Interview Cutter"
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    "text": "Since paid version of Interview Cutter"
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    "text": "I two 300 million views across socials"
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    "text": "put the round together and all of a put the round together and all of a put the round together and all of a"
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    "text": "sudden overnight I have $5 million in sudden overnight I have $5 million in sudden overnight I have $5 million in"
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    "text": "whole time I'm like maybe interview whole time I'm like maybe interview whole time I'm like maybe interview"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "a result I I become a lot more long-term a result I I become a lot more long-term a result I I become a lot more long-term"
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    "text": "Like like me as a man, I have changed"
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    "text": "Like like me as a man, I"
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    "text": "need a wife, bro"
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    "text": "Like it's so obvious"
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    "text": "like the productivity delta there is so like the productivity delta there is so like the productivity delta there is so"
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    "text": "massive and most engineers don't have massive and most engineers don't have massive and most engineers don't have"
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    "text": "always try to like ask them like yo always try to like ask them like yo always try to like ask them like yo"
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    "text": "what's your love life like"
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    "text": "They just don't know how to girlfriend"
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    "text": "They just don't know how to"
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    "text": "Um, I think the world is like, get one"
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    "text": "Um, I think the world is like, get one"
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    "text": "Um, I think the world is like,"
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    "text": "of risk tolerance is reflected even with of risk tolerance is reflected even with of risk tolerance is reflected even with"
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    "text": "Most people are just women nowadays"
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    "text": "Most people are just women nowadays"
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    "text": "walking around, they're like complete walking around, they're like complete walking around, they're like complete"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "[ __ ] bro"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "They cannot talk to girls"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "[ __ ] bro"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "They cannot talk to girls"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "[ __ ] bro"
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    "text": "They cannot talk to girls"
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    "text": "And and if you like try to ask them, And and if you like try to ask them, And and if you like try to ask them,"
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    "text": "They're out there doing this know, bro"
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    "text": "They're out there doing this know, bro"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "They're out there doing this"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "[ __ ] Uh, the world needs more of that"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "[ __ ] Uh, the world needs more of that"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "[ __ ] Uh, the world needs more of that"
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    "text": "It's like not even advice or anything"
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    "text": "It's like not even advice or anything"
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    "text": "I mean, girls want you to walk"
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    "speaker": "guest",
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    "text": "That was inspiring, bro"
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    "text": "But I think this is a better developer"
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    "text": "You could only the max the best you Mhm"
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    "text": "you need to do like 1,000 * 990 like you need to do like 1,000 * 990 like you need to do like 1,000 * 990 like"
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    "text": "learn how to do it"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "This is this is how"
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    "text": "humans operate always have operated in humans operate always have operated in humans operate always have operated in"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "And maybe you won't be as good the past"
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    "text": "And maybe you won't be as good"
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    "text": "at solving like the two digit at solving like the two digit at solving like the two digit"
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    "text": "multiplications, but like there's a multiplications, but like there's a multiplications, but like there's a"
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    "text": "problem that the calculator can't do, problem that the calculator can't do, problem that the calculator can't do,"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "then you as a human, you you will learn then you as a human, you you will learn then you as a human, you you will learn"
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    "text": "Anyone any institution, any it"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Anyone any institution, any it"
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    "text": "Anyone any institution, any"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "for anything, you need to immediately for anything, you need to immediately for anything, you need to immediately"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Like right now, college is is such Yeah"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like right now, college is is such Yeah"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Like right now, college is is such"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "such it's a gigantic hope"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "such it's a gigantic hope"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "such it's a gigantic hope"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Complete peak"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, dude, Complete peak"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, dude, Complete peak"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Well, dude,"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "actual privilege to get to know you and actual privilege to get to know you and actual privilege to get to know you and"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "have a conversation with you, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "have a conversation with you, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "have a conversation with you, bro"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "such a clear thinker, genius, Likewise"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "such a clear thinker, genius, Likewise"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "such a clear thinker, genius,"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "creative marketer"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So cool to see creative marketer"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So cool to see creative marketer"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So cool to see"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "someone that's technical and understands someone that's technical and understands someone that's technical and understands"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Very rare breed"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "So, where marketing"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Very rare breed"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "So, where marketing"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Very rare breed"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "can people find you"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I'm I'm biggest can people find you"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I'm I'm biggest can people find you"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Um, I'm I'm biggest"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "on Twitter or X"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Uh, it's iive_roy_lee"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "on Twitter or X"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh, it's iive_roy_lee"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "on Twitter or X"
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    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Uh, it's iive_roy_lee"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And then clearly"
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    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And then clearly"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "And then clearly"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, that's it"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "All right, brother"
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  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, that's it"
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  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "All right, brother"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, that's it"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "All right, brother"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Well, thank you so much"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, thanks Well, thank you so much"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "guest",
    "text": "Yeah, thanks Well, thank you so much"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "Yeah, thanks"
  },
  {
    "speaker": "host",
    "text": "for having me, brother"
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