[ { "i": 0, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "text": "What would you say is the most difficult time that you've had as a parent? Uh uh dealing with my own addiction. I'm being vulnerable and them seeing me vulnerable and my image crumbled." }, { "i": 1, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "text": "And then when I saw that in them, I'm assuming this is Charlie. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "i": 2, "speaker": "Speaker 2", "text": "And what was that experience like bonding as you would?" }, { "i": 3, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "text": "It didn't start out as as bonding. It ruptured our relationship because I was uh meddling in, interfering, you know, in insisting uh that he act a certain way. But I think my persistence had a lot to do with it." }, { "i": 4, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "text": "I didn't let him off the hook and I went so far as to do, I guess, the unthinkable. you know, I went to the authorities and said, uh, you know, I know this guy and he's he's, uh, he's abusing his, uh, his, uh, probation. And what was that experience like for you?" }, { "i": 5, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "text": "It was devastating because, uh, he he, you know, it just it just ruptured our relationship." } ]